# "*": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wefindx/schema/master/intent/oo-item.yaml" # "base:title": "0oo - Ecosystem of Organizations" "og:title": "Ecosystem of Organizations" "og:description": "The type of orgs involved in that Ecosystem can be non-profit, environmental, social awareness, among others for planetary systems wellbweing." "og:image": "https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/28134655" "og:url": "/intent/63001/" "base:css": "/static/css/bootstrap.min.9c25540d6272.css" "base:extra-css": "/static/css/base.57997aeac1df.css" "base:favicon": "/static/favicon.acaa334f0136.ico" "base:body_class": "" "layout:logo": "/static/0oo.8d2a8bbef612.svg" "layout:index": "/" "layout:menu": "/menu/" "layout:categories": "/intents/" "layout:ideas": "/methods/" "layout:projects": "/projects/" "layout:users": "/users/" "layout:about": "/about/" "layout:help": "/help/" "layout:bug_report": "https://github.com/wefindx/0oo" "layout:login": "/accounts/login/" "layout:light-off": "/darken/?darken=true" "layout:set-monolingual": "/mulang/?mulang=false" "layout:lang": "Language" "layout:set-language-post-action": "/i18n/setlang/" "layout:csrf-token": "akR68ZfY2AOFEHWOlXs96cKQEngfSSsfBm2PJ1NWBlvaJluODcGKQtmECfZYAWZf" "layout:input-next": "/intent/63001/" "layout:languages": [{"code": "ja", "is-active": "false", "name": "日本語"}, {"code": "lt", "is-active": "false", "name": "Lietuviškai"}, {"code": "zh-hans", "is-active": "false", "name": "简体中文"}, {"code": "en", "is-active": "true", "name": "English"}, {"code": "ru", "is-active": "false", "name": "Русский"}, {"code": "oo", "is-active": "false", "name": "O;o,"}] # "item:title": "Ecosystem of Organizations" "item:votes": +2 "item:add-vote": "#addnote" "item:intent": "/intent/63001/?l=en" "item:base-administration": false "item:body": | The type of orgs involved in that Ecosystem can be non-profit, environmental, social awareness, among others for planetary systems wellbweing. "item:permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en" "item:source-date": "" "item:owner": "malü" "item:ownerlink": "/user/244/malü" "item:created": "2021-08-20T16:19:46.756163" "item:intent:child:add": "/admin/hlog/intent/add/?parent=63001" # "item:method:items": "item:method:add": "/admin/hlog/method/add/?parent=63001" "item:comment:add": "/intents/addnote?parent=63001" "item:comment:add:csrf_token": "akR68ZfY2AOFEHWOlXs96cKQEngfSSsfBm2PJ1NWBlvaJluODcGKQtmECfZYAWZf" "item:comment:form": |
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  • Please, log in. # "item:comment:items": - "id": "r-85001" "text": | Non profits are fine, but how the org is organized should not be constrained. However, the org structure is on public display, with all kinds of measurables, gauges available, for just looking. So, if it builds bombs, itll be well known. Then, there are paid sensors that check the quality and trueness of those gauges, and fundamentals used in org construction. Those are open source code, simple functions. Id like to call them poets, not sensors. They check for functionality matching names. Then, an org can be judged by auto generated descriptions. "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-85001" "created": "2021-08-20T16:27:34.172010" "vote": "" - "id": "r-86001" "text": | And by "organizations", you mean "public benefit organizations"? The concept of organization in sociology is quite wide, and it includes from families to countries, and everything in between and beyond (any set of communicating interacting and collaborating agents). A die-hard capitalist would tell you, that the capitalism is about an ecosystem of organizations, and be correct about it. So, I think it merits to be more specific about title, and more specific about what kind of ecosystem would that be. My guess is that you're probably about mutually supportive and mutually aware non-profits and public benefit organizations, but, as said in the first paragraph "organization" has a broad definition. "owner": "Mindey" "ownerlink": "/user/147/Mindey" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-86001" "created": "2021-08-20T16:36:23.125650" "vote": "" - "id": "r-87001" "text": | To clarify, im talking about an ecosystem of community modules, nfts, forming an economic system of its own. Orgs are constructed by composing other types of orgs in the ecosystem. It starts with very basic building blocks, the fundamentals. Its a vision. But its getting more clear as we are building it. Ill roll out the logic engine when its finished and tested. Thats the core of composition, the logic system, or classification system. However you prefer. There will be a low code development system. Anyone can whip out a custom dao. And, it should be blockchain agnostic, any bc will do. Itll take community effort to create drivers, but then ecosystem csn be spread over a number of bc implementations "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-87001" "created": "2021-08-20T16:38:55.529556" "vote": "" - "id": "r-88001" "text": | For any group of people to gather often what matters is - space (where do they meet) and games (what do they do together). "owner": "Ruta" "ownerlink": "/user/170/Ruta" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-88001" "created": "2021-08-20T16:48:40.828699" "vote": "[+]" - "id": "r-89001" "text": | Any org, a country or a local club. I leave it to folks to create what they need, but the seed types will be geared towards structure with lots of degrees of freedom, fluid, open, lots of checks and balances. Then, these qualities will be publically observable thru public gauges, so people can chose what kind of org type to use. I think we can let it go at that, and itll self organize into structure of freedom. I envision devices and typified feedback loops that will keep communities in ballance. Too much freedom is not all that good either. The point is to keep community together, forever changing tho, keep it from freezing into a solid oppressive crystal but not too gaseous where it simply evoporates thru attrition, regulated thru wide participation, on local level, in a simple intuitive way. Not thru horrandously complex and fallable elections to some remote offices, but lical, organic, immidiate. Small continuous , democratic decision making process, spread thru each level of structure, fractal.the key is, each level and branch is self determined and self aware, self suffocient, but losely connected to neighbours. How far connections go is matter of adjustments, forming perspective. "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-89001" "created": "2021-08-20T16:51:23.639210" "vote": "" - "id": "r-90001" "text": | Let me put this way. I dont know what all those labels mean. I deal with structure. Theres a specific type of structure of freedom, measurable as degrees of freedom. I can write a gauge that measires it in a quantum system, as i see it. Its structure with lots of overlap in node functionalities, allowing plasticity. How much degrees of freedom? That is dynamic, and should be measured and adjusted by community consent. All we need is to provide those tools, to measire and to adjust, gauges and dials. Few lines of code, and a few react components for community dashboard. "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-90001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:01:39.178330" "vote": "" - "id": "r-91001" "text": | [skihappy] -- as I understand, [malü] wrote this topic here, and wants to have it as a community, and so, that's why there's [o2oo.io/.malü](https://o2oo.io/.malü), and meanwhile you, are talking on this thread about it as if the ecosystem were to be your idea, and you've got plans for it. Is there a backstory of this thread? Are you collaborating with [malü] on something? :) If you've got a picture of what such ecosystem would be, perhaps it would be good to provide an extensive descrition of how it would work?... or, is the "logicEngine" not yet ready for that? "owner": "Mindey" "ownerlink": "/user/147/Mindey" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-91001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:08:55.736699" "vote": "" - "id": "r-92001" "text": | Thats why we need land, to build our culture. I see actively spreading accumulated upside, wealth to budding communities, where an established community gets vested into a developing community, spreading the risk. The developing relationships and trust will translate to rate of currency exchange "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-92001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:19:01.074156" "vote": "" - "id": "r-93001" "text": | Exactly, its not ready. This is a vision im passing. Iv been thinking about it for a while. Some aspects of it are being implemented. But, i hope others will pick it up and we can develop implementation together. I dont wanna come off as the driving force. But i wanna share my thoughts. Thats all. Im slowly working my way in that direction. "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-93001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:23:54.358070" "vote": "" - "id": "r-94001" "text": | The thred was started as a question. Thats my thoughts on the subject. Im very flexible. Dont mean to hug the show, but the subject really resonates with my work. Im giving a preview. I only can hope itll be something of use. Itll take lots of people to bring it to full potential, prbly people smarter then me. "owner": "jspoet" "ownerlink": "/user/18001/jspoet" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-94001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:31:54.288559" "vote": "" - "id": "r-95001" "text": | Ill have api docs soon, after its tested. But its power will be realized with development of screens, user interface. Id love for others to collaborate on that "owner": "jspoet" "ownerlink": "/user/18001/jspoet" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-95001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:36:32.206260" "vote": "" - "id": "r-96001" "text": | Itll, hopefully, be part of kostya project, solarea. So, infrastructure already partially there. Perhaps, i shouldv started my own thread on it. Just could not resist. I will def do a write up when theres more to show. "owner": "jspoet" "ownerlink": "/user/18001/jspoet" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-96001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:41:07.641570" "vote": "" - "id": "r-97001" "text": | // Id love for others to collaborate on that // [jspoet], definitely looking forward to your API docs, and the description of the concept, as you're talking about your project, it would be nice to have that discussion on the topic about your project. ;) rather than generic "Ecosystem of Organizations" topic. However, it's great that you're sharing the generic directions you'd like ecosystems of organizations to go to. "owner": "Mindey" "ownerlink": "/user/147/Mindey" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-97001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:48:52.003529" "vote": "" - "id": "r-98001" "text": | What can we learn from non-linear networks and ecology when we design ecosystems of organisations? "owner": "Ruta" "ownerlink": "/user/170/Ruta" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-98001" "created": "2021-08-20T17:59:24.620446" "vote": "[+]" - "id": "r-99001" "text": | [jspoet] it's never too early to share your project updates. I share my early drafts in most of my projects here on o2oo.io - because I iterate based on feedback :) hope to see your project updates soon! and actually, by sharing intermediary results in our projects - that's how we start an ecosystem! when our projects have challenges - all of us together can tackle them. so to this question of "Ecosystem of Organisations" I'd add - an ecosystem needs to facilitate interaction between members (games). "owner": "Ruta" "ownerlink": "/user/170/Ruta" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-99001" "created": "2021-08-20T18:02:48.631283" "vote": "" - "id": "r-100001" "text": | Will do. Im really looking forward having something tangeable to show. Iv started by asking exactly these questions. It really hits home. These discussions are extremely valuable. Im very practical, tho. I wanna build the solutions, define something measurable, deliverable, doable. "owner": "skihappy" "ownerlink": "/user/14001/skihappy" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-100001" "created": "2021-08-20T18:10:30.613551" "vote": "" - "id": "r-101001" "text": | This puzzle relates to [Application of Fractals in Society](https://o2oo.io/intent/1363) , [Prototyping Systems](https://o2oo.io/intent/1292/?l=en#r-98) and [Templating Micro Communities](https://o2oo.io/method/1018/?l=en#a-1034), the main point of which is - interactions between members create a (eco)system. Here I wonder if a minimum number of ecosystem members matters? We can drive inspiration from [tetrahedrons](https://youtu.be/QbX-yvt5K98?t=396) and how they construct with one another into larger stable structures. "owner": "Ruta" "ownerlink": "/user/170/Ruta" "permalink": "/intent/63001/?l=en#r-101001" "created": "2021-08-21T08:19:59.126569" "vote": "" "base:js": "/static/js/base.c7357c06cc89.js"